Why look for lightning in regard to Jesus Christs manifestation?

Isaiah 2:1

"1 This is what Isaiah son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem: 2 In the last days the mountain of the LORD's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. 3 Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD , to the house of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. "

If these truly are the last days then the largest dispute which requires settling is who should be ruling the world. Those with even a basic scriptural knowledge and faith should know that it is Jesus. Is he ruling now though, and if not when? This is one of the most contended issues in Christianity. If we are to assume he is now ruling then why all the disputes? Certainly the bible was divinely inspired in such a way that his rulership could not be disputed with continued success.

So, what is missing or has been overlooked?

In regards to foremost matters it must be something contained in scripture referencing the presence and manifestation of our King and Lord Jesus Christ. Will this dispute be set straight before, during or after the day belonging to God starts. Certainly the day of the Lord is the start of the tribulation and judgement, so the matter should have opportunity to be set straight immediately before this. In Matthew Chapter 24 our King tells us what to look for in regard to "signs of his presence".

Have we seen them all?

This is an important question.

Why?

Matthew 24: 33 "Likewise also YOU, when YOU see all these things, know that he is near at the doors. "

Who is it that is at the doors?

James 5:9 "Look! The Judge is standing before the doors. "

For this reason I believe the tribulation (judgement) will start during the generation which sees all the things recorded in Matthew 24 prior to verse 29. Why? Here is Matthew CH 24 verse 29;

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

Everything up to that point the Judge is still "near at the doors". Once that door opens the tribulation (judgement) starts. Jesus Christs is no longer just "present" but will stand up and begin judging. It is the generation which sees those things recorded prior to verse 29 which Matthew 24:34 refers to:

Matthew 24:34 "Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. "

So the generation which sees "all" will be the one that endure the entire course of Jesus Christ's Judgement from begining to end. That is unless an individuals judgement is adverse.

The immediate question to ask then is; "has all these things been seen"? My examination of the scriptures and also historical events will show that of those things recorded prior to Matthew 29 the events described in verse 27 have now been seen. Here is what Matthew Chapter 24 verse 27 says;

Matthew 24:27 "For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be. "

Our King is not talking about an ordinary manifestation of lightning here. If it is lightning which comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts then it must be an extraordinarily powerful manifestation of lightning. If he was refering to ordinary lightning it would make no difference. If these scriptures are to be fullfilled then, this lightning also must be one of those things that we should see. If I am able to completely reveal all I have found, you also will see "all these things" and be confident that you are in the generation which will endure Jesus Christ's righteous and long awaited Judgement!

If you now want to "see" this lightning please read the following very important blog entry:

http://ablebodiedman.blogspot.com/2004/10/while-researching-something-entirely.html

If you have just finished reading the above mentioned blog entry it would now be a good time to review this entry as it will now progress to the point of identifying when the Judgement should start and the examination of Matthew Chapter 24 should be carefully considered as it now relates to the following:

First of all, it should be understood that we will not know the exact date.

Why?

Matthew 24:42

42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

We are however, admonished that some may have a good idea about the timeframe during which Jesus should arrive in judgement. This is alluded to in the following verse:

Matthew 24:43

"43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into."

Athough we do not know the exact time of day or night that Jesus is coming the scriptures indicate that we should at least be aware of the watch during which this event will take place.

If we are admonished to keep on the watch we should at least be aware of the length of the watch period and also the time the watch starts.

In the above scripture it is referring to a night watch.

During ancient times a night was divided up into intervals of time each of these was a watch.

Here is the Merriam-Webster definition

2 a : any of the definite divisions of the night made by ancient peoples b : one of the indeterminate intervals marking the passage of night -- usually used in plural

In order to "keepn the watch" the watchman would have to know at what time the watch:

1/ Started

2/ The Duration the watch would be.

We have already determined above that the watch starts when "you see all these things" - Mt 24:33

From the discussion of events in Matthew it is not possible to determine the length of the watch .

I hope you agree these scriptures in Matthew Ch 24 do in fact infer that it should be possible to determine the length of the watch.

In a similar manner to many other scriptural revelations it is very likely that a scripture exists elsewhere in the bible which will give us the required information.

Are there any scriptures with similar expressions or parallels to Matthew Chapter 24?

The best way to do this is with a bible concordance which very quickly reveals that Daniel Chapter 12 not only has some startling similarities to Matthew Chapter 24, it also has the actual length of many different times periods recorded within it's same verses. Are these the "watch's" being reffered to in Mathew Ch 24?

The very first verse of Daniel alludes to a period of Judgement or action being taken:

Daniel 12:1

1 "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress
such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered.

There also seems to be a large separation between the faithfull and the evil or the righteous and the wicked as brough out by Daniel 12:10

Daniel 12:10

10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

This is much like Matthews' reference to the Faithfull and Evil Slave. in Matthew 24:45-51.

Notice also the reference to the breaking in pieces of the Holy people in both Daniel and Matthew as follows:

Daniel 12:7 - ASV

" 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the
waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when they have made an end of breaking in pieces the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. "

Matthew 24:50-51

50The master of that servant will come on a day when he
does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Certainly these scirptures are reffering to the things which are to happen during the same "watch", breaking or cutting the holy people, servants of God to pieces.

If you are satisfied with the parallel, then we can then apply the time period mentioned in Daniel to the length of the "Watch" in Matthew.

The period in Daniel is said to be "a time, times and a half."

It is interesting to contemplate that the length of a "time" can not be understood until it was revealed by the Apostle John in Revelation chapter 12.

So now, how long is 'a time' so that we can calculate the length of this "watch".

Revelation 12:6

"The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for
her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."

Revelation 12:14

"The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach."

Therefore:

time, times and half a time = 1260 days

That times must equal 2 times is a rationale whose conclusion must be carefully contemplated.

If you try to make times equal to anything else but 2 times it does not seem to make sense.

So the "watch" we should be concerned with is 1260 days long or about 3 and 1/2 years.

An astute reader should now be able to discern that on the date of my writing this we must be already well within this "watch"!

So when did the watch actually start?

I strongly suspect that the start date of this "watch" can be determined within a period of about 2 weeks.

The rationale for this will follow at a later date.

Regards

ablebodiedman

Man of Sin - Son of Destruction

The Man of Lawlessness
The Man of Sin is also called the Man of Lawlessness in some bible translations. He is then also referred to as the son of destruction or perdition in 2nd Thessalonians 2:3.

Revealing of The Man of Sin
The revealing of this Man of Sin is a very important event as the scriptures indicate that it immediately precedes the coming of Jesus Christ. This is the intent of the 2nd Chapter of the bible book of 2nd Thessalonians to explain these preliminary events as identified in the first verses of this chapter.

Individual or Composite "Man"
The Greek word for man being used in 2nd Thessalonians is: Anthropos
According to Strongs Concordance 444 it can have several meanings as follows:
1:- a human being, whether male or female
2:- indefinitely, someone, a man, one
3:- in the plural, people
4:- joined with other words, merchantman
5:- A two fold nature of man
This Man of Sin can therefore be either an individual man or woman or an esoteric group.

Identifying Features

Lawlessness
The lawlessness was already working in the 1st Century:
2 Thessalonians 2
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work
Exactly how this lawlessness was at work is not properly understood however, it probably was an insidious entity which was attempting to undermine Jesus Christ's law's and commandments. Jesus himself demonstrated this would be so through his admonishments to the disciples as follows:
Matthew 13
38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

Opposition
The Man of Sin will be in opposition to the will of God.
2 Thessalonians 2
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God

Exalted above God
The Man of Sin will also exalt himself above the position of God and Jesus. If the Man of Sin is lawless then he must regard the laws and commandments of Jesus with contempt and perhaps substitute his own in their place.

The Man of Sin is able to access God's Temple
The scriptures indicate further that the Man of Sin is somehow able to enter God's Temple:
2 Thessalonians 2
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Showing himself to be a God infers that he is able to obtain worship or veneration from his subjects.

First Century Disciples had been told about the Man of Sin
The Apostle Paul made a statement which indicated that the disciples should already be aware of what was happening to them in regard to the Man of Sin due to previous admonishments which, might be discernable through scriptures. That Paul needed to remind them indicates the relationship to what he had previously told them might not be easily discernable.
2 Thessalonians 2
5Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?

Something is restraining the ability for others to discern him
2 Thessalonians 2
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

A mysterious iniquity is allowed to continue
The Man of Sin is allowed to continue with his mysterious iniquity however, the scripture indicate that he will be eventually taken out of the way.
2 Thessalonians 2
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
Do other scriptures indicate that an iniquity is allowed to continue inside of The Kingdom which, will eventually be removed?
Matthew 13
28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

This Generation will by no means pass away !

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Immediately after explaining how he would appear after the tribulation Jesus Christ stated in Matthew 24:34

"Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. "

Jesus identified a generation which would be alive to see some truly profound bible prophecies take place.

What is a generation?

The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines a generation as:

Main Entry: gen·er·a·tion
Pronunciation: "je-n&-'rA-sh&n
Function: noun

1 a : a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor b : a group of individuals born and living contemporaneously c : a group of individuals having contemporaneously a status (as that of students in a school) which each one holds only for a limited period d : a type or class of objects usually developed from an earlier type

2 a : the action or process of producing offspring : PROCREATION b : the process of coming or bringing into being c : origination by a generating process : PRODUCTION; especially : formation of a geometric figure by motion of another

3 : the average span of time between the birth of parents and that of their offspring

It usualy takes between 20 and 25 years before an adult human being produces offspring. So the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition above gives us a reasonably good ball-park number to measure the significance of Jesus Christs' words.

Would Jesus not know what our contemporary definition of a "generation" is? If he had used the word "generation" and yet wanted it to mean something other than our common definition then he certainly would have used a more correct word. In defense of their own failed prediction the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society would prefer that we do believe that our King Jesus Christ must have used the wrong word or intended it to have some other meaning than the immediately obvious one.In order to break the mystery of how long a generation should be could we not use the bible itself? I hope you agree this is what Jesus would most often do when faced with contentions from the pharisees. A usefull scripture which Jesus himself was likely also familiar with is Genesis 50:22-23

Genesis 50:22-23

22 Joseph stayed in Egypt, along with all his father's family. He lived a hundred and ten years and saw the third generation of Ephraim's children. Also the children of Makir son of Manasseh were placed at birth on Joseph's knees.

So Joseph lived to 110 and saw 3 generations of his own son's children. If you now count his son Ephraim as a generation also then we can say that 4 generations occured within a period of 110 years. Now all that is required is some simple math to determine that a biblically understood generation is approximately 110/4 or 27 1/2 years.

Jesus' own understanding of a generation would certainly comply with the understanding exhibited within the remainder of the bible.

Many people, including the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah's Witnessess have made presumptuous claims in regard to the identity of this generation. Rather than criticise their failures however, this blog will now dissect what the bible actually says about "the generation" in regards to its identity and chronology.

First of all, it should be understood that we will not know an exact date.

Why?

Matthew 24:42

42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come."

We are however, admonished that some discerning and righteous ones may have a good idea about the timeframe during which Jesus should arrive in judgement. They should know before he arrives to judge.

This is alluded to in the following verse:

Matthew 24:43

"43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into."

The reader should agree that it is Jesus Christ's coming in judgement that we are watching for however, all that Jesus assures us is that it will occur during a certain "watch". Once this happens Jesus is no longer just "present" as a ruling king but by judging the world he is actively bringing it to an end. The system of things is being concluded. Although we do not know the exact time of day or night that Jesus is coming, the scriptures indicate that we should at least be aware of the watch during which this event will take place.

If we are admonished to keep on the watch we should at least be aware of the length of the watch period and also the time the watch starts.

In the above scripture it is referring to a night watch.

During ancient times a night was divided up into intervals of time, each of these was a watch.

Here is the Merriam-Webster definition

2 a : any of the definite divisions of the night made by ancient peoples b : one of the indeterminate intervals marking the passage of night -- usually used in plural

So in order to "keep on the watch" the watchman would have to know:

1/ The length of time the watch would be.
2/ When the watch starts

From the discussion of events in Matthew chapter 24 it is not possible to determine the length of the watch.

I hope you agree these scriptures in Matthew Ch 24 do in fact infer however, that it should be possible to determine the length of the watch.

Coming to this important conclusion gives the impetus to continue the research.

In a similar manner to many other scriptural revelations it is very likely that a scripture exists elsewhere in the bible which will give us the required information.

Are there any scriptures with similar expressions or parallels to Matthew Chapter 24?

The best way to discover this is with a bible concordance, which very quickly reveals that Daniel Chapter 12 not only has some startling similarities to Matthew Chapter 24, it also has the actual length of many different time periods recorded within it's same verses.

Are these the "watch's" being reffered to in Mathew Ch 24?

The very first verse of Daniel Chapter 12 alludes to a period of Judgement or action being taken:

Daniel 12:1

"At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered."

Certainly Daniels writings are referring the same judgement and tribulation as that described by Jesus in Matthew chapter 24.

There also seems to be a large separation between the faithfull and the evil or the righteous and the wicked as brought out by Daniel 12:10

Daniel 12:10

10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

This is much like Matthews' reference to the Faithfull and Evil Slave in Matthew 24:45-51.

Notice also the reference to the breaking in pieces of the Holy people in both Daniel and Matthew as follows:

Daniel 12:7 - ASV

" 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when they have made an end of breaking in pieces the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. "

Matthew 24:50-51

"50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Certainly these scirptures are referring to the things which are to happen during the same "watch". Breaking or cutting the holy people, servants of God, the Evil Slave to pieces.

If you are satisfied with the parallel, we can then apply the time period mentioned in Daniel to the length of the "watch" in Matthew.

The period in Daniel is said to be "a time, times and a half."

It is interesting to contemplate that the length of a "time" can not be understood until it was revealed by the writings of the Apostle John in Revelation chapter 12 many centuries later.

So now, how long is 'the time, times and half a time' so that we can calculate the length of this "watch"?

Revelation 12:6

"The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."

Revelation 12:14

The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach."

Therefore:

time, times and half a time = 1260 days

So the "watch" we should be concerned with is 1260 days long or about 3 and 1/2 years.

In their calculation of Jesus Christ's presence in kingdom power starting in 1914 the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah's Witnessess correctly applied "a year for a day" to this time period.

The generation which sees the start of the watch however, should also see all these things pass. Therefore applying a "year for a day" does not fit with Jesus Christ's words and the 1260 days must be literal days or approximately 3 and 1/2 years in order to properly fit into the lifespan of a generation.

We now have the length of the watch however, this information is of absolutely no value unless we know when we should start watching. This time is important to understand as it is crucial to identify "this generation". Would our King, Jesus Christ leave us with such a dilemma? That would contradict his renowned benevolent character. Would Jesus not know what our contemporary definition of a "generation" is? Of course not!


In Matthew Chapter 24 Jesus Christ tells us what to look for in regard to "signs of his presence".

Have we seen them all?

This is an important question.

Why?

Matthew 24:33

"Likewise also YOU, when YOU see all these things, know that he is near at the doors."

Who is it that is at the doors?

James 5:9

Look! The Judge is standing before the doors. "

For this reason I believe the tribulation (judgement) will start during the generation which sees all the things recorded in Matthew 24 prior to verse 29.

Why verse 29?

The entire of Matthew Chapter 24 is devoted to answering two questions posed to Jesus by his disciples.

Matthew 24:3

3Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

Question 1:
"What will be the sign of your coming" (or presence)

Question 2:
"When does the age conclude" (world or system of things)

Up to verse 29 Jesus describes signs of his presence or coming in power as a king and so answers question number one.

Here is Matthew CH 24 verse 29;

Matthew 24:29

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

Everything up to that point the Judge is still "near at the doors".

Once that door opens the tribulation (judgement) starts. Jesus Christ is no longer just "present" but will stand up and begin judging. Therefore at verse 29 Jesus is now giving attention to question number 2, the end of this system or age.

It is the generation which sees those things recorded prior to verse 29 which Matthew 24:34 refers to:

Matthew 24:34

"Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. "

So the generation which sees "all" of the signs prior to verse 29 will be the one that witnesses the entire course of Jesus Christ's judgement from begining to end. The generation which sees the "conclusion of the system of things" or in some bible translations it is referred to the "end of this world".

The immediate question to ask then is; "have all these things been seen"?

My examination of the scriptures and also historical events will show that of those things recorded prior to Matthew 29 the events described in verse 27 have now been seen!

Here is what Matthew Chapter 24 verse 27 says;

Matthew 24:27

"For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be. "

Jesus Christ is not talking about an ordinary manifestation of lightning here. If it is lightning which comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts then it must be an extraordinarily powerful manifestation of lightning. If he was referring to ordinary lightning it would make no difference. If these scriptures are to be fullfilled then, this lightning also must be one of those things that we should see.

If you now want to "see" this lightning please read the following very important blog entry:

http://ablebodiedman.blogspot.com/2004/10/while-researching-something-entirely.html


Did you see it?

If you did then you will be included in the very small number of those who are aware they will be a part of the generation which sees the end of this world.

There should no longer be any doubt in your mind that you should do everything possible to ensure not only your own survival, but also that of your friends, family and neighbours.

An astute reader should now be able to discern that on the date of my writing this we must be already well within this "watch"!

We can now positively say that it is this generation which will not pass away until all the events described in Matthew 24 are completed.

So when did the watch actually start?

I have estimated that we have at the most just over one year left of the "watch".

Please read the letter written several months after this entry in order to understand how this was calculated and make certain you come back here to complete this blog entry:

Letter to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. <-- Click Have you understood this blog entry? Daniel reveals this as an important question: Daniel 12:10

"10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand."

Regards


ablebodiedman

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God's Glory Manifested at the Tunguska Event!

It was Jesus who subdued Satan and cast him to the confines of the earth. (Revelation Ch12)

Revelation 12:7-9 NIV "And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9The great dragon was hurled down--that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. "

God also indicates he would be involved in this battle also. This is revealed through another scripture where he says "Till I (God) make Your (Jesus) enemies Your footstool" found in the 110th Psalm as follows:

Psalm 110:1,2 - NKJV "The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool." 2The LORD shall send the rod of Your strength out of Zion. Rule in the midst of Your enemies! "

As the battle started in heaven and finished on the earth it does seem reasonable that God, Jesus and his angels would therefore be in close proximity to human eyewitnesses who could unwittingly testify to visible manifestations of their presence.

A search through the Bible for indications of visible manifestations of these that occurred in the past or are prophesied to occur in the future should now be necessary in order to measure them against the testimony provided by actual eyewitnesses of the Tunguska Event.

Jesus did subtly provide further evidence which, we could compare against eyewitness testimony.

This is found in The Gospel of Mark:

Mark 8:38 - ESV"For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.""

From the understanding of who would be involved in the battle which we have just discussed it should support this verse as also decribing that same prophetic time that Jesus would return his attention to the earth and become it's king as the verses at Revelation 12:7-9 mentioned.

We should therefore see visible evidence "of his father's glory" (God's Glory) in connection with the eyewitness testimony of the Tunguska event. That God's Glory is something, which can be seen, is verified by Moses in Exodus 17-18 as follows:

Exodus 33:17,18 - MSG17 "GOD said to Moses: "All right. Just as you say; this also I will do, for I know you well and you are special to me. I know you by
name."18 Moses said, "Please. Let me see your Glory."

There are several scriptures in the bible, which describe God's Glory.
I have chosen one which attributes God's Glory to a very specific manifestation which we would also hope to find through evidence given by eyewitness testimony of the Tunguska Event if this is indeed the same event that Jesus repeatedly revealed through the scriptures in Mark 8:38, Revelation 12:7-9 and Luke 10:18

Here is the scripture:

Ezekiel 1:28 - NKJV "Like the appearance of a rainbow in a cloud on a rainy day, so was the appearance of the brightness all around it. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."

Therefore in connection with the cylindrical object which has already been identified as Satan we should expect to see manifestations of God's Glory which Jesus said he would come with in Mark 8:38. This glory should also be in close proximity to the cylindrical object (Satan) as we would expect this is necessary if Jesus is subduing it (him) and should be like the "appearance of a rainbow".

Here are links to Internet Web Sites, which corroborate this:
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http://fusionanomaly.net/tunguska.html

"2.The Tunguska object left no smoky trail like many fireballs, but rather iridescent bands that looked like a rainbow. "

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http://www.galisteo.com/tunguska/docs/tmpt.html

by Academician N.V. Vasilyev

"Many eyewitnesses observed a trail of iridescent bands resembling a rainbow."

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http://omzg.comcen-1.nsk.su/tunguska/en/articlese/vasiljeve.html

"Still, many witnesses noticed a trail of iridescent bands looking like a rainbow [4]."

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http://www.ufo.freewire.co.uk/tunguska.htm

By Vladimir V. Rubtsov, Ph.D.

"Its shape was mostly described as roundish, spherical, orcylindrical; its color as red, yellow, or white. There was no smoky trail typical of large, iron meteorites, but many witnesses saw vivid iridescent bands resembling a rainbow behind the body."

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There are more detailed testimonies in the document provide through Andrei Yu. Ol'khovatov's web site, which can be downloaded in Russian from here:

http://olkhov.narod.ru/tungwitn1.htm

I have electronically translated this document but with only poor results. The results however do show that the testimonies if directly quoted from this document would likely be more vivid than those found through the WWW.

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As expected the eyewitness testimonies corroborate the expectation set through the very words of Jesus Christ recorded in the Bible.
The profundity here is that God's Glory was unwittingly witnessed by testimony of those present on the same day as the extraordinary manifestation of lightning we expected to find through Jesus’ words in Luke 10:18.

I feel confident that denial of the veracity of this would now be going beyond scepticism. However the Bible does indicate this would be the case for many people.

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Manifestations of Angelic presence during the Tunguska Event

As the battle started in heaven and finished on the earth it does seem reasonable that God, Jesus and his angels would therefore be in close proximity to human eyewitnesses who could unwittingly testify to visible manifestations of their presence.

A search through the Bible for indications of visible manifestations of these that occurred in the past or are prophesied to occur in the future should now be necessary in order to measure them against the testimony provided by actual eyewitnesses of the Tunguska Event.

In Mark 8:38 Jesus mentioned he would be coming with his "holy angels" as follows:

Mark 8:38 - ESV "38 For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.""

An examination of the Bible to determine visible and physical manifestations of angelic presence on the earth and also as they approach vicinity of the earth could now be undertaken in order to measure them against actual eyewitness testimony of the Tunguska event.

Included in the more than 700 recorded eyewitness testimonies is the observation on the same day of very large pillars of fire and columns of smoke.

Reading these testimonies brings to mind the prophecy at Joel 2:30,31 where several portents (signs or wonders) are mentioned as follows:

Joel 2:30 "And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: Blood and fire and pillars of smoke. 31The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD.

Pillars of fire and columns of smoke were associated with angels during the Israelites march through the wilderness. With this in mind their presence on the earth during the final stages of the battle, which started in heaven, should not be surprising. (Revelation 12:7)

Exodus 14:19 "Then the angel of God, who had been traveling in front of Israel's army, withdrew and went behind them. The pillar of cloud also moved from in front and stood behind them,"

Exodus 13:21 "And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:"

There is also testimony, which mentions two columns of fire that emanated from near the Tunguska Body after it approached the ground. These two columns, the clouds of smoke and the rainbow like iridescent bands of light seem remarkably similar to the following description of an angelic manifestation mentioned in the bible at Revelation Ch10:1 as follows:

Revelation 10:1 "Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven. He was robed in a cloud, with a rainbow above his head; his face was like the sun, and his legs were like fiery pillars."

It should be expected that in order to subdue Satan a mighty angel would be required. (Jesus?)
Here is the double column of fire eyewitness testimony, which can be found in Andrei Ol'khovatov's web site:

http://olkhov.narod.ru/tunguska.htm#21

"Nizshne-Ilimskoye (419 km, 168). The fireball was seen which while going to the ground at first flattened into 'flying saucer'. Then coming nearer to the ground it transformed into 2 fire columns. "

It is interesting to also contemplate that a cylindrical object when viewed from one end slightly tilted would give the appearance of the traditionally accepted 'flying saucer shape'

That angels are manifested as flames of fire and wind (vortices) is made mention of by the Apostle Paul in his letter to the Hebrews at Ch 1:7 who is quoting Psalm 104

Hebrews 1:7 NIV "In speaking of the angels he says, "He makes his angels winds,
his servants flames of fire."

Psalm 104:1 NIV "Praise the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, you are very great; you are clothed with splendour and majesty. 2 He wraps himself in light as with a garment; he stretches out the heavens like a tent 3 and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind. 4 He makes winds his messengers, flames of fire his servants."

That columns of fire are witnessed on the same day as the lightning expected as part of Jesus's statement at Luke 10:18, a manifestation of a battle between angels is not surprising considering descriptions in the bible of how angels physically appear.

This continues to add to the very large amount of composite evidence which should now be compelling enough to convince even the toughest skeptic.

It is reasonable to conclude that the "casting down of Satan" associated with Jesus coming to kingly power is an event much deserving of a portent.

The earthly parts of these portents mentioned in Joel definitely seem fulfilled on the same day as the extraordinary manifestation of lightning expected as part of Jesus’ statement at Luke 10:18.

The missing part of the portent is "blood".

My suspicion is that it refers to the bloodshed caused by the outbreak of World War One and continuing through the remainder of the 20th century and now into the 21st.

The remaining portents mentioned in Joel 2:30,31 are the heavenly or celestial ones also mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 24:29,30 which are associated with the revelation of Jesus after the tribulation as follows:

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

Jesus, in Matthew 24:29,30 does not include the earthly portents of blood, fire and columns of smoke mentioned in Joel 2:30 with his eventual revelation after the tribulation.

This provides some confidence they could be associated with something else. It is therefore with comfort that they should be associated with the "casting down of Satan" which also heralds the coming of Jesus to Kingly Power and the start of the last days. The entire writings of the Bible lead towards the manifestation of God's Kingdom. Certainly these events are ones much deserving of a visible and undeniable portent (sign) or 'wonder'.

There is still more to be written in regard to angelic manifestations here.

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-:Start a time clock on the 1260 days or 3 1/2 time complete with an explanation of why it has already began expiring.
-: make more clarification on the "Man of Perdition", expand what has been currently written and make further scriptural reference which identify/reveal him.
-: Write a letter to the annointed (evil or faithfull)saints which explains that it is this Generation upon who "all these things will be brought to a finish".
-: Design and write a form letter to the ruling Kings and Presidents of each nation.
Done -: Invite people to email friends at end of each post.
-: put a link in my blog to Andrei Oh'kolotov's Tunguska forum.
Done -: 1914 date. Give better connection of Daniel 7 times prohecy to Jesus Christ using scripture. Refrain from mentioning "Gentile Times" as this is used to contend the date by apostates et al.
-: Examine Tunguska Event Testimonies through Bible scripture.
-: Link to e-watchman page - (lots of views to my page from there)
-: find more ways to get exposure to world
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-: explain consequence of JC manifestation to Jewish world wide community
-: explain prophetic consequnce to annointed "saints"
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-: invite J4J groups to contemplate blog.
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Blog News

20/Feb/05 - Explained how "Man of Perdition could be Revealed"
10/Feb/05 - Wrote about Crop Circle and scriptural implications.
21/Oct/04 - New Post "Manifestations of Angelic presence during the Tunguska Event"
20/Oct/04 - New post "God's Glory Manifested at the Tunguska Event! "
19/Oct/04 - Included invite to email friends at the end of each post.
19/Oct/04 - Edited "how the year 1914 was calculated" to include more scriptural connection to Jesus Christ.
18/Oct/04 - Sent invite to Tunguska Forum hosted by Andrei O'hkolotov. Must remember to put a link in my blog to his forum when I can figure out how to do this.
18/Oct/04 - Have my first comment. Answered it in the Q&A post.
18/Oct/04 - Have a new guestbook entry from Rick. Might be a Jewish Connection?
18/Oct/04 - Changed title of post to "Tangible Evidence of Jesus Christ's Manifestation"
17/Oct/04 - Sent "Armchair Archeology" as a query to several different hard copy archeological and scientific Magazine Editors. I hope they are positive.
16/Oct/04 - Answered first question from Guestbook
16/Oct/04 - Started a Q&A post to answer questions from Guestbook and comments
16/Oct/04 - Fixed some grammar and spelling in the Post- Jesus Christ's Manifestation.
15/Oct/04 - Added explanation of how 1914 is calculated using biblical chronology
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Identified Flying Object - IFO not UFO

If you have arrived at this topic and have not read my blog entry regarding the manifestation of Jesus Christ at the Tunguska Event then you will not understand the following.

Please read this blog entry first: Manifestation

In regards to the Tunguska event, Carl Sagan in his book "Cosmos" noted a fundamental dilemma;

"The key point of the Tunguska Event is that there was a tremendous explosion, a great shock wave, an enormous forest fire, and yet no impact crater at the site".

For this same reason many other Tunguska Event investigators and experts suggest in their hypothesis that the body which approached the earth must have completely disintegrated or evaporated in the great explosion.

If this Tunguska Body (Satan) was resilient enough however, to completely survive the tremendous explosion, he should still be somewhere in the vicinity of the earth. If this were true it should then be expected that since the year 1908 and through the rest of the 20th century there would have been many eyewitness reports of a shining, roaring, pipe or cylindrical body "flying" in the vicinity of the earth. These reports should also exist somewhere in the public record.

The above rationale does not contradict the scriptures as they do indicate this will in fact be the temporary demise of Satan and the world we live in. If you are not familiar with the bible it should now be explained that Satan once had a responsible station in heaven where he would be an integral part of the creation's government. This is revealed in an old testament scripture where Satan arrives at his heavenly station and directly contends with God.

Here is the scripture:

Job 1:6-7

6Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. 7And the LORD said unto Satan, "From whence comest thou?" Then Satan answered the LORD and said, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down upon it."

From the above scripture we can see that Satan could freely leave his heavenly station to move about on the earth. At this point in history he was able to return to his heavenly station whenever he wished or when commanded to a meeting which the above scripture seem to indicate was the nature of his arriving before the Lord.

As explained in the aforementioned blog entry, Satan was cast down to the earth immediatrely prior to Jesus becoming King. Satan has now lost his heavenly station and is no longer allowed to return. Satan was cast down to the earth along with any rebellious angels. The earth we live on has therefore become a prison for those who oppose and contend with God. As we are the offspring of Adam and Eve we are also included in that category. Considering this, it is no wonder that the planet is in such a terrible state. This condition was prophesied in the bible through the following scripture:

Revelation 12:9-12

9And the great dragon was cast out -- that serpent of old called the Devil and Satan, who deceiveth the whole world. He was cast out onto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10And I heard a loud voice saying in Heaven, "Now have come salvation and strength, and the Kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ; for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, who accused them before our God day and night. 11And they overcame him
by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea! For the devil has come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.".

What would people conclude if they were in fact to witness Satan flying about in the vicinity of the earth? According to the Tunguska witness testimony they should see a shining, roaring, pipe or cylindrical body. It is therefore very likely they would conclude that they have seen a UFO or Un-identified Flying Object. There are now many eyewitness testimonies recorded on the internet with which we can exploit the search engines to find. With the recent advent of cheap digital cameras and video recorders it is likely that some actual photographic evidence may exist in our very recent history. So what kind of search criteria should we use in the web engines to find the data we are looking for?

Lets make a list as follows:

UFO
Cylinder
Drum
Pipe
Log
Tube
Cigar
Shiny
Bright
Gleaming
Beaming
Roaring
Growling
Whiring

To make it easy lets try Google with just UFO and Cylinder and see what happens.

You may also go to this page in my blog to see videos embeded from YouTube:

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http://ablebodiedman.blogspot.com/2002/08/video-of-satan.html

The first in the list is some photographs taken on November 20th 2002 of a UFO which is startlingly similar to those descriptions given by eyewitness testimonies almost 100 years earlier in 1908 of the Tunguska Body. Carefully examining the inset close ups I can see a definite sheaf like appearance often indicated in the 1908 testimony. It looks like two pipes or cyclinders joined in the middle. The photographer admits to hearing a sound like a jet (roaring?) which drew his attention to the object.

Here is the link: http://www.rense.com/general33/ufocyl.htm


Using different combinations of the above search criteria several other very profound reports can be discovered on the Internet.

Here is some actual video footage of a shiny cylinder shot in Sonora, California which looks remarkably similar to the video stills reported in Portsmouth, Ohio in the above.

This video can be downloaded at the following link:

http://www.rense.com/general53/cyl.htm

Now take a look at the astounding video clip #1 on the following web page:

http://www.hbccufo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2618

If you have problems downloading send me an email and I will send you a copy.

I am convinced that what you are looking at is the Tunguska Cosmic Body (Satan) who is still alive and well moving "to and fro in the vicinity of the earth" (Job 1:7). Now I know why it took 10 minutes for the cyclinder to pass through the atmosphere and why there are so many contentions over it's "ballistic nature" amoungst the scientific community.

In my opinion the Tunguska Event is the solution to a much larger mystery.

See the following blog entry for an indepth investigation of why:

http://ablebodiedman.blogspot.com/

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