Tuesday, October 12, 2004

The "man of lawlessness" has been revealed!

The "man of lawlessness" - Revealed!



The identity of the man of lawlessness, the son of perdition, has long been a bible mystery, his identity will be revealed in this blog entry.



Carefully reading and contemplating this blog however, does not guarantee that you will understand.



Why?



The prophet Daniel was inspired to explain:





10 Many will cleanse themselves and whiten themselves and will be refined. And the wicked ones will certainly act wickedly, and no wicked ones at all will understand; but the ones having insight will understand.






Many academics throughout history and especially in recent years have attempted to identify this "man". A large number of hypotheses abound with many conflicting and confusing interpretations.



What is so important about identifying this man?



The scriptures indicate that eventually this "man" will be revealed and then be overthrown, done away with through the spirit of his mouth (Jesus Christ) then brought to nothing or completely destroyed by Jesus Christ's coming.



2Thessalonians 2:8



"8And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendour of his coming. "




Once the man of lawlessness is revealed the "coming" of our Lord Jesus Christ in judgment would be very imminent making most other historical events appear mundane by comparison. This should justify anyone’s interest in pursuing its meaning through the bible and carefully paying attention to world events in order to identify the revealing of this "man".



According to the prophet Daniel’s inspired explanation this "man of lawlessness" himself will not understand and therefore is certain to be completely surprised.



There are four events concerning "the man of lawlessness" contained within the very small verse mentioned in the above which, occur in chronological order.



1:- He is revealed



2:- He is overthrown


3:- Jesus comes.




4:- He is destroyed



There seems to be yet another event closely associated with the above that we should also be "keeping on the watch" for.



Prior to the manifestation of Jesus Christ's presence a life saving truth will be revealed which many people will not receive or accept.



Here is one scripture, which supports this:



2Thessalonians 2:10



"10and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. "




All of these events also tie in with yet another event which a very esoteric group of righteous men are patiently waiting for, the coming of Jesus Christ and the gathering together to him. The relationship of all these events is tied together at the outset of the 2nd chapter of 2nd Thessalonians.



2Thessalonians2:1




1Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him,




and also verse 8





8Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming;




The "man of lawlessness" has to be either an influential person or composite group of men and may also contain women.



Why?



The Greek word for man here is: Anthropos



According to Strongs Concordance 444 it can have several meanings as follows:




1:- a human being, whether male or female


2:- indefinitely, someone, a man, one


3:- in the plural, people


4:- joined with other words, merchantman






Is this "man of lawlessness" the rest of mankind then, who do not accept Jesus Christ as Savior?



Verses early in the chapter provide yet another feature of this "man" which show that he is not the rest of mankind who reject Jesus but that he must be an identifiable "man" or organized group of men who set themselves up as an object of veneration. The scriptures also indicate that this "man" actually has access to the very Temple of the true God!



Here is the verse:



2Thessalonians2:4





4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called "god" or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god.






Therefore this man must also have worshippers who are misled into venerating him, perhaps in lieu of or in addition to worshipping the true God. This "man of lawlessness" and his worshipper followers then, should be the ones who deny and reject a special "truth" which could have saved them as explained in 2Thessalonians2:10 as follows:




"10and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved"




As they did not receive a truth it is likely that they also had a (divine?) responsibility to accept this truth and also disseminate it to their followers.



The next verse shows that not only does this "man of lawlessness" reject a life saving truth, they also are deluded into believing a lie. What a truly miserable condition the worshipper/followers of this "man of lawlessness" will find themselves in when he is revealed.



2Thessalonians 2:11





11And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,





These followers are therefore not aware of their own miserable condition and must be truly convinced that they are saved. The above scripture however, indicates they are completely deluded.



If this "man of lawlessness" and his follower worshippers knew that he was the "man of lawlessness" then they would definitely take steps to refrain. Instead they must sincerely believe in "The Lie" rejecting the life saving truth in favour of this same lie. They are indeed completely deluded. All the more reason for each one of us to keep on the watch and pay attention to the events presently happening all around us.



Understanding these things gives us a pattern with which to measure the "man of lawlessness" so that when he is revealed we will properly recognize him. This pattern can be used to measure against actual historical events we see happening in our world. If this event is so important however, should it not also have mention in other scriptures, perhaps the Hebrew and the Greek? This same pattern therefore, could be used to measure against other scriptures, which should in turn help us to understand who this "man of lawlessness" is. To continue with this same rationale then, it could be that this very exercise may in fact reveal the "man of lawlessness" and the first stage of his prophetic demise would be achieved! To continue further with the rationale then, this "man of lawlessness" may be revealed and overthrown simply through understanding a bible truth. The scripture in 2nd Thessalonians indicates that he will be overthrown by the "breath (or spirit) of Jesus Christ’s mouth". I hope that many will agree here that the spirit of Jesus Christ’s mouth is quite simply just -------------------------------- the truth!



Perhaps now is a good time to list all of the features discussed so far in order to easily see the pattern.



Here is the list:



1:- An esoteric group of people who will be revealed

2:- a group of people who are likened to a man

3:- and overthrown

4:- and completely destroyed

5:- They will not accept a life saving truth

6:- It is likely they had a responsibility to accept and also disseminate the truth.

7:- Their revelation and overthrow will occur immediately before the manifestation of Jesus Christ’s presence.

8:- their complete destruction will be related to the coming of Jesus Christ

9:- he will entice his followers to venerate him as a god (perhaps in addition to the true God)

10:- he will have access to the actual Temple of God.

11:- he will be deluded into believing a lie.

12:- he and his worshipper/followers will not realize that he is the "man of lawlessness" because of this delusion.



The first step in matching the pattern would be to identify whether there is an individual or esoteric group who is likened to a "Man" in alternate scripture.



There is an instance of this in the Greek Scriptures using the same Greek word "Anthropos" as follows:



Ephesians 2:13-21


13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near

through the blood of Christ. 14For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, 16and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit. 19Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and aliens, but fellow citizens with God's people and members of God's household, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. 21In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.


So here is an esoteric and organized group of men (members) who do indeed have access to the Temple of God (God's household)!



This scripture is however, referring to saints, anointed and divinely invited men who are righteous.


Could it actually be that scripture exists which liken the saints to wicked men destined to destruction?




Yes !



Here is one:



Matthew 24:42-51


42"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. 45"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


See if you can find any parallels to 2Thessalonians Chapter 2.



How about these scriptures:



...............Matthew 24:- Keep watch

2nd Thessalonians 2:- for what? A lifesaving truth perhaps?



................Matthew 24:- your Lord will come

2nd Thessalonians 2:-
Something to do with the Lord coming or his manifestation!



...............Matthew 24:- faithful and wise servant

2nd Thessalonians 2:- an esoteric group of men to give them their food at the proper time

.........................................a lifesaving truth at the right time!



...............Matthew 24:- suppose that servant is wicked

2nd Thessalonians 2:- A group of men who may not be righteous and yet serve

.......................................(in the temple?) - man of lawlessness?



...............Matthew 24:- beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards

2nd Thessalonians 2:- "they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness "



...............Matthew 24:-the master of that slave will come on a day when he

......................................does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know,

2nd Thessalonians 2:- Implies they could have known when to expect him

.......................................if they had believed the lifesaving truth.



...............Matthew 24:- and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with

...................................... the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

2nd Thessalonians 2:- "brought to nothing by the manifestation of his presence"




Can you see the parallels?



I hope you will agree that no other group of men are described in the New Testament who have access to the temple of God except for the invited and anointed saints, especially one that is described as a "man".



What about the old Hebrew Testament?



Is there a scripture about an esoteric group who believe in a lie or falsehood instead of the truth?



Here is one:



Isaiah 28:15


15Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are

we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not

come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

An esoteric group of people hiding inside a falsehood. Certainly if this group of men are hiding they will eventually have to be revealed. In the scripture above however, who is the "We" that have made a lie their refuge?



This is answered a few verses previous:



Isaiah 28:14


14 Therefore hear the word of Jehovah, YOU braggarts, YOU rulers of this people who are in Jerusalem:


The rulers of God's People!


I hope you will agree that the anointed of the New Testament are also those who will be the rulers of God's people.




Isaiah 28:23


Listen and hear my voice; pay attention and hear what I say.



They should be paying attention or keeping on the watch -- for a truth.



Here is what they will have attention with:



Isaiah 29:6


6you will be visited by the LORD of hosts with thunder and with earthquake and great noise, with whirlwind and tempest, and the flame of a devouring fire.



Is this the lifesaving truth they should have been watching for?




They have indeed been given attention with the above in a letter sent on January 16th, 2003.



A link to this letter will be provided at a later date along with the profundity of its significance.



Isaiah 29:14


14therefore, behold, I will again do wonderful things with this people, with wonder upon wonder; and the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the discernment of their discerning men shall be hidden."



Is this the delusion that God sends them, the "Faithful and Wise Servant"?



2Thessalonians2:11




"Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,"

So what is the falsehood they are deluded into believing is true?



The falsehood is also mentioned in Isaiah Chapter 28 as follows:



Isaiah 28:15


15 Because YOU men have said: "We have concluded a covenant with Death; and with She´ol we have effected a vision; the overflowing flash flood, in case it should pass through, will not come to us, for we have made a lie our refuge and in falsehood we have concealed ourselves";


So the "rulers of this people" have concluded "a covenant with death" yet, Isaiah explains that it is a falsehood or lie. A covenant with death would certainly mean that the rulers and their followers are deluded into believing that they have passed judgment and will live. In fact "a covenant with death" means these rulers and those subject to them are deluded into thinking they have escaped judgment and will now live forever. Isaiah further explains however, that they will not escape the "flash flood" (judgment).



Isaiah 28:18


18 And YOUR covenant with Death will certainly be dissolved, and that vision of YOURS with She´ol will not stand. The overflowing flash flood, when it passes through—YOU must also become for it a trampling place.


Just as 2 Thessalonians explains that the "man of lawlessness" will be destroyed so does Isaiah explain that the rulers of God's people who made the covenant with death will be destroyed.



A discerning reader will now be considering whether any historical identification could be made based on what these scriptures are indicating.



Asking the following question may lead to the identity.



Is there an esoteric and organized group of men that claim to have spiritual access to the actual temple of God? Do they claim to be divinely guided and have they concluded a "covenant of Death" with themselves and their followers? Are these men also deluded into believing they will be hidden from God’s coming judgment exercised by his son our Lord Jesus Christ?



Please make certain you come back here to finish this scriptural examination. By following this link however, a historical candidate who has indeed made a covenant with death and also fits the other criteria can be identified.



A Covenant with Death < -------------- click



Certainly it would be extremely presumptuous to pronounce oneself righteous. This is the sole responsibility of God’s appointed delegate Jesus Christ who has the right and the mandate to judge the entire world. Anyone pronouncing himself to be righteous without consideration of our Lord Jesus Christ would be lifting themselves above his heavenly station!



The Apostle Paul announced in his second letter to the Thessalonians that this would be an identifying mark of "the man of lawlessness" as follows:



2 Thessalonians 2:4





4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called "god" or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god.






This same organized group of men should also somehow publicly display themselves to be a god from within the temple of God. How could this be accomplished by the Governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?



In order to comprehend how this is accomplished please consider the following scriptures with Christian baptism in mind:



Hebrews 10:19-23





19 Therefore, brothers, since we have boldness for the way of entry into the holy place by the blood of Jesus, 20 which he inaugurated for us as a new and living way through the curtain, that is, his flesh, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us approach with true hearts in the full assurance of faith, having had our hearts sprinkled from a wicked conscience and our bodies bathed with clean water. 23 Let us hold fast the public declaration of our hope without wavering, for he is faithful that promised.






Careful consideration of the above verses should help the discerning reader understand this is a way of entry into the temple of God "entry into the holy place" and that it is accomplished through baptism "bodies bathed in clean water" which also includes a public declaration "the public declaration of our hope".



Now if the association with baptism and entry into the temple is understood a further examination of baptism should help the reader comprehend some simple baptism criteria which is mentioned in the following by the Apostle Matthew:



Matthew 28:19





19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,






Please notice the criteria which is listed in the following and compared where possible to 2nd Thessalonians 2:4:






Christian Baptism Criteria:



Name of the Father ------------- Jehovah ----------- The God ------------ (2 Co 1:3)


And of the Son ------------------ Jesus -------------- a god ----------------- (John 1:1)


And of Holy Spirit -------------- The Helper ------ God's active force -- (Acts 2:38)




Now please compare this to the publicly declared baptismal vows, which is an absolute requirement to becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses. This is quoted from the June 1st 1985 Watchtower Magazine on page 30:






"On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?



The second is:



Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?"





These vows are publicly made often in front of thousands of people.



Now the reader should also attempt to reconcile the Jehovah's Witness baptismal criteria where possible to 2nd Thessalonians 2:4 and Matthew 28:19.



Jehovah's Witness Baptism Criteria:



Jehovah to do his will ------------------ Name of the Father ----------- The God


Sacrifice of Jesus Christ --------------- And of the son ----------------- a god


God's spirit-directed organization ---- an esoteric group of men ----- a god?




Can you see in the above an esoteric group who is "publicly showing himself to be a god"? (2Th 2:4).



Jehovah's Witnesses are taught by this same organization that the above vows are essential for salvation as confirmed in the following quote from the January 15th 1989 Watchtower magazine on page 15:






"Baptismal candidates must acknowledge publicly that on the basis of Jesus' sacrifice they have repented of their sins and have dedicated themselves to Jehovah. They must also understand that dedication and baptism identify them as Jehovah's Witnesses.


2 The entire baptismal arrangement, including this public expression of faith, is essential for salvation. "






I hope the reader agrees that in order to be saved a person has to approach the alter in the temple of God in order to benefit from Jesus Christ's sacrifice. Therefore the individuals public expression must therefore gain entry into the temple.



Isaiah further mentions that those who are ruling over God’s people will be deluded into believing they will be concealed or hidden from the "flash flood". The flash flood being referred to is the coming tribulation or judgment by God.



Isaiah 28:15





"-the overflowing flash flood, in case it should pass through, will not come to us, for we have made a lie our refuge and in falsehood we have concealed ourselves";





Is there a historical candidate who has manifested this delusion?



In case you missed it here is a subtitle from the July 1, 1983 Watchtower Magazine Article linked to above.



"Live Companions of Those Hidden From Divine Denunciation"




Anything hidden or concealed should eventually be revealed. This is exactly what the Apostle Paul recorded would happen to "the man of lawlessness":



2 Thessalonians 2:8





"Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence."






The reader may be thinking the words in Isaiah chapter 28 are in reference to his own contemporaries, who made alliances with Egypt and Assyria. In the book "Isaiah’s Prophecy – Light for all Mankind" published by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society we are told these alliances are "the covenant with death" which the "rulers of God’s people" made to save themselves from the "flash flood". The book further explains that the "flash flood" is Babylon’s literal armies, which were soon to destroy Jerusalem. Isaiah quotes God’s own words however, to explain what method God will actually use to dissolve this "covenant with Death". After carefully examining the passage again, the reader should notice that it is Jesus Christ (the precious corner of a sure foundation) and not Babylon who God will use to achieve this. Therefore the "flash flood" is the judgment which starts when our Lord Jesus Christ’s presence is manifested and not the Babylonians.



Here is the passage:



Isaiah 28:16





16 therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: "Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a stone, a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation. No one exercising faith will get panicky. 17 And I will make justice the measuring line and righteousness the leveling instrument; and the hail must sweep away the refuge of a lie, and the waters themselves will flood out the very place of concealment. 18 And YOUR covenant with Death will certainly be dissolved, and that vision of YOURS with She´ol will not stand. The overflowing flash flood, when it passes through—YOU must also become for it a trampling place.






The discerning reader should now ask himself why God’s uses his son Jesus Christ to dissolve a "covenant with Death" which supposedly occurred well before Jesus became the "precious corner of a sure foundation". The only answer is that Isaiah words are referring to only the time period of the end, immediately before and after Jesus Christ’s presence is manifested and God’s judgment of this wicked world starts.



Notice also in the above that God explains what instruments Jesus Christ will use to reveal and dissolve (do away with) this "covenant of Death". Justice and righteousness are the "leveling instrument". It is also mentioned that waters "will flood out the place of concealment". Bible truths are often referred to in the bible simply as waters. Therefore it is simply the truth that will reveal and eventually dissolve this "covenant with Death" which is something Jesus Christ will achieve.



It seems so straightforward that it is Jesus however, that a person who imagines the "leveling instrument" was the Babylonians must be suffering from some delusion. The fact this delusion does exist proves the undeniable accuracy of the bible.



Please now compare what the Apostle Paul said would reveal and do away with "the man of lawlessness" in the following scripture:




2 Thessalonians 2:8





8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence.






I hope the reader agrees that "the spirit of his mouth" is quite simply the truth.




The "man of lawlessness" however does not want to hear a straightforward truth, which might be lifesaving.



2nd Thessalonians 2:12





12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness.







In a following Chapter the Prophet Isaiah confirms this to be the case.




Isaiah 30:9-10




9 For it is a rebellious people, untruthful sons, sons who have been unwilling to hear the law of Jehovah; 10 who have said to the ones seeing, ‘YOU must not see,’ and to the ones having visions, ‘YOU must not envision for us any straightforward things. Speak to us smooth things; envision deceptive things.






The scripture above is most definitely describing a group of people who do not want to accept a truth and would prefer to hear lies. The situation certainly describes deluded people.



They do not want to hear an important truth!



It seems this truth now being referred to in the Hebrew scriptures might have saved them and yet instead their end is described a few verses later:



Isaiah 30:13-14


13Therefore this iniquity shall be to you Like a breach ready to fall, A bulge in a high wall, Whose breaking comes suddenly, in an instant. 14And He shall break it like the breaking of the potter's vessel, Which is broken in pieces; He shall not spare. So there shall not be found among its fragments A shard to take fire from the hearth, Or to take water from the cistern."


It seems like this organized group of people being spoken of by Isaiah will be "brought to nothing" just as the "man of lawlessness is.



2 Thessalonians 2:8


"will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming."



and it will happen in an instant; "comes suddenly" just as happens to the "evil slave".



Matthew 24:50


50the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know.



and also broken in pieces just like the "evil slave".



Matthew 24:51


51and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



This esoteric and organized group of men being described in Thessalonians, Matthew and Isaiah will be completely destroyed; "brought to nothing".



Isn’t that what perdition means?



Here is the definition in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:




Main Entry: per·di·tion



Pronunciation: p&r-'di-sh&n



Function: noun



Etymology: Middle English perdicion, from Late Latin perdition-, perditio, from Latin perdere to destroy, from per- through + dare to give --



1 a archaic : utter destruction b obsolete : Loss



2 a : eternal damnation Hell





These men are divinely invited members of the anointed, saints who have an opportunity to rule as kings with Jesus Christ. Although in Thessalonians, Matthew and Isaiah they are referred to as lawless, evil, braggarts and drunkards their selection was initially divine. In this way the esoteric group of men could also be referred to as "holy" which now provides a parallel to the words written in Daniel as follows.





Daniel 12:7






"It will be for an appointed time, appointed times and a half. And as soon as there will have been a finishing of the dashing of the power of the holy people to pieces, all these things will come to their finish."









The end result of the people described above is exactly the same as that described in 2nd Thessalonians, Matthew, and Isaiah. Please examine and compare the list that follows:




NWT--2Thessalonians 2:8--------------do away with-------bring to nothing



KJV--Matthew 24:51------------------- He will cut him to pieces



NWT--Daniel 12:7-----------------------dashing of the power of the holy people to pieces.



NWT--Isaiah 30:14----------------------crushed to pieces without one’s sparing




If the prophecy in Daniel Chapter 12 is soon to be accomplished the we can expect that at this present time the world is within the same time period described by the man in linen of "an appointed time, appointed times and a half" or 1260 days. If this is correct then the reader may be concerned when those1260 days started.



Please see the following blog entry, which provides an answer:



This Generation will by no means pass away ß
-------- Click




I have not exhausted the things I want to write about this man of lawlessness and will continue to add and edit this document.



Please keep returning to re-examine and contemplate the profundities.



In order to properly reveal this "man of lawlessness" please also ensure your family, friends and associates read this.



The revealing of the "man of lawlessness" indicates that Jesus is soon to come.


What should we do next?



At the present time all I can think of is to echo the words of John the Baptist.




"REPENT, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near."




‘Prepare the way of Jehovah, YOU people! Make his roads straight.’"




With Christian love.




ablebodiedman

Monday, October 11, 2004

Why look for lightning in regard to Jesus Christs manifestation?

Isaiah 2:1

"1 This is what Isaiah son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem: 2 In the last days the mountain of the LORD's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it. 3 Many peoples will come and say, "Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD , to the house of the God of Jacob. He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths." The law will go out from Zion, the word of the LORD from Jerusalem. 4 He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. "

If these truly are the last days then the largest dispute which requires settling is who should be ruling the world. Those with even a basic scriptural knowledge and faith should know that it is Jesus. Is he ruling now though, and if not when? This is one of the most contended issues in Christianity. If we are to assume he is now ruling then why all the disputes? Certainly the bible was divinely inspired in such a way that his rulership could not be disputed with continued success.

So, what is missing or has been overlooked?

In regards to foremost matters it must be something contained in scripture referencing the presence and manifestation of our King and Lord Jesus Christ. Will this dispute be set straight before, during or after the day belonging to God starts. Certainly the day of the Lord is the start of the tribulation and judgement, so the matter should have opportunity to be set straight immediately before this. In Matthew Chapter 24 our King tells us what to look for in regard to "signs of his presence".

Have we seen them all?

This is an important question.

Why?

Matthew 24: 33 "Likewise also YOU, when YOU see all these things, know that he is near at the doors. "

Who is it that is at the doors?

James 5:9 "Look! The Judge is standing before the doors. "

For this reason I believe the tribulation (judgement) will start during the generation which sees all the things recorded in Matthew 24 prior to verse 29. Why? Here is Matthew CH 24 verse 29;

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

Everything up to that point the Judge is still "near at the doors". Once that door opens the tribulation (judgement) starts. Jesus Christs is no longer just "present" but will stand up and begin judging. It is the generation which sees those things recorded prior to verse 29 which Matthew 24:34 refers to:

Matthew 24:34 "Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. "

So the generation which sees "all" will be the one that endure the entire course of Jesus Christ's Judgement from begining to end. That is unless an individuals judgement is adverse.

The immediate question to ask then is; "has all these things been seen"? My examination of the scriptures and also historical events will show that of those things recorded prior to Matthew 29 the events described in verse 27 have now been seen. Here is what Matthew Chapter 24 verse 27 says;

Matthew 24:27 "For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be. "

Our King is not talking about an ordinary manifestation of lightning here. If it is lightning which comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts then it must be an extraordinarily powerful manifestation of lightning. If he was refering to ordinary lightning it would make no difference. If these scriptures are to be fullfilled then, this lightning also must be one of those things that we should see. If I am able to completely reveal all I have found, you also will see "all these things" and be confident that you are in the generation which will endure Jesus Christ's righteous and long awaited Judgement!

If you now want to "see" this lightning please read the following very important blog entry:

http://ablebodiedman.blogspot.com/2004/10/while-researching-something-entirely.html

If you have just finished reading the above mentioned blog entry it would now be a good time to review this entry as it will now progress to the point of identifying when the Judgement should start and the examination of Matthew Chapter 24 should be carefully considered as it now relates to the following:

First of all, it should be understood that we will not know the exact date.

Why?

Matthew 24:42

42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.

We are however, admonished that some may have a good idea about the timeframe during which Jesus should arrive in judgement. This is alluded to in the following verse:

Matthew 24:43

"43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into."

Athough we do not know the exact time of day or night that Jesus is coming the scriptures indicate that we should at least be aware of the watch during which this event will take place.

If we are admonished to keep on the watch we should at least be aware of the length of the watch period and also the time the watch starts.

In the above scripture it is referring to a night watch.

During ancient times a night was divided up into intervals of time each of these was a watch.

Here is the Merriam-Webster definition

2 a : any of the definite divisions of the night made by ancient peoples b : one of the indeterminate intervals marking the passage of night -- usually used in plural

In order to "keepn the watch" the watchman would have to know at what time the watch:

1/ Started

2/ The Duration the watch would be.

We have already determined above that the watch starts when "you see all these things" - Mt 24:33

From the discussion of events in Matthew it is not possible to determine the length of the watch .

I hope you agree these scriptures in Matthew Ch 24 do in fact infer that it should be possible to determine the length of the watch.

In a similar manner to many other scriptural revelations it is very likely that a scripture exists elsewhere in the bible which will give us the required information.

Are there any scriptures with similar expressions or parallels to Matthew Chapter 24?

The best way to do this is with a bible concordance which very quickly reveals that Daniel Chapter 12 not only has some startling similarities to Matthew Chapter 24, it also has the actual length of many different times periods recorded within it's same verses. Are these the "watch's" being reffered to in Mathew Ch 24?

The very first verse of Daniel alludes to a period of Judgement or action being taken:

Daniel 12:1

1 "At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress
such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered.

There also seems to be a large separation between the faithfull and the evil or the righteous and the wicked as brough out by Daniel 12:10

Daniel 12:10

10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

This is much like Matthews' reference to the Faithfull and Evil Slave. in Matthew 24:45-51.

Notice also the reference to the breaking in pieces of the Holy people in both Daniel and Matthew as follows:

Daniel 12:7 - ASV

" 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the
waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when they have made an end of breaking in pieces the
power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
"

Matthew 24:50-51

50The master of that servant will come on a day when he
does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Certainly these scirptures are reffering to the things which are to happen during the same "watch", breaking or cutting the holy people, servants of God to pieces.

If you are satisfied with the parallel, then we can then apply the time period mentioned in Daniel to the length of the "Watch" in Matthew.

The period in Daniel is said to be "a time, times and a half."

It is interesting to contemplate that the length of a "time" can not be understood until it was revealed by the Apostle John in Revelation chapter 12.

So now, how long is 'a time' so that we can calculate the length of this "watch".

Revelation 12:6

"The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for
her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."


Revelation 12:14

"The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach."

Therefore:

time, times and half a time = 1260 days

That times must equal 2 times is a rationale whose conclusion must be carefully contemplated.

If you try to make times equal to anything else but 2 times it does not seem to make sense.

So the "watch" we should be concerned with is 1260 days long or about 3 and 1/2 years.

An astute reader should now be able to discern that on the date of my writing this we must be already well within this "watch"!

So when did the watch actually start?

I strongly suspect that the start date of this "watch" can be determined within a period of about 2 weeks.

The rationale for this will follow at a later date.

Regards

ablebodiedman

Man of Sin - Son of Destruction

The Man of Lawlessness
The Man of Sin is also called the Man of Lawlessness in some bible translations. He is then also referred to as the son of destruction or perdition in 2nd Thessalonians 2:3.

Revealing of The Man of Sin
The revealing of this Man of Sin is a very important event as the scriptures indicate that it immediately precedes the coming of Jesus Christ. This is the intent of the 2nd Chapter of the bible book of 2nd Thessalonians to explain these preliminary events as identified in the first verses of this chapter.

Individual or Composite "Man"
The Greek word for man being used in 2nd Thessalonians is: Anthropos
According to Strongs Concordance 444 it can have several meanings as follows:
1:- a human being, whether male or female
2:- indefinitely, someone, a man, one
3:- in the plural, people
4:- joined with other words, merchantman
5:- A two fold nature of man
This Man of Sin can therefore be either an individual man or woman or an esoteric group.

Identifying Features

Lawlessness
The lawlessness was already working in the 1st Century:
2 Thessalonians 2
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work
Exactly how this lawlessness was at work is not properly understood however, it probably was an insidious entity which was attempting to undermine Jesus Christ's law's and commandments. Jesus himself demonstrated this would be so through his admonishments to the disciples as follows:
Matthew 13
38The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

Opposition
The Man of Sin will be in opposition to the will of God.
2 Thessalonians 2
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God

Exalted above God
The Man of Sin will also exalt himself above the position of God and Jesus. If the Man of Sin is lawless then he must regard the laws and commandments of Jesus with contempt and perhaps substitute his own in their place.

The Man of Sin is able to access God's Temple
The scriptures indicate further that the Man of Sin is somehow able to enter God's Temple:
2 Thessalonians 2
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
Showing himself to be a God infers that he is able to obtain worship or veneration from his subjects.

First Century Disciples had been told about the Man of Sin
The Apostle Paul made a statement which indicated that the disciples should already be aware of what was happening to them in regard to the Man of Sin due to previous admonishments which, might be discernable through scriptures. That Paul needed to remind them indicates the relationship to what he had previously told them might not be easily discernable.
2 Thessalonians 2
5Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?

Something is restraining the ability for others to discern him
2 Thessalonians 2
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

A mysterious iniquity is allowed to continue
The Man of Sin is allowed to continue with his mysterious iniquity however, the scripture indicate that he will be eventually taken out of the way.
2 Thessalonians 2
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
Do other scriptures indicate that an iniquity is allowed to continue inside of The Kingdom which, will eventually be removed?
Matthew 13
28He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
39The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

This Generation will by no means pass away !

.

Immediately after explaining how he would appear after the tribulation Jesus Christ stated in Matthew 24:34



"Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. "

Jesus identified a generation which would be alive to see some truly profound bible prophecies take place.

What is a generation?


The
Merriam-Webster dictionary defines a generation as:

Main Entry: gen·er·a·tion
Pronunciation: "je-n&-'rA-sh&n
Function: noun

1 a : a body of living beings constituting a single step in the line of descent from an ancestor b : a group of individuals born and living contemporaneously c : a group of individuals having contemporaneously a status (as that of students in a school) which each one holds only for a limited period d : a type or class of objects usually developed from an earlier type


2 a : the action or process of producing offspring : PROCREATION b : the process of coming or bringing into being c : origination by a generating process : PRODUCTION; especially : formation of a geometric figure by motion of another


3 : the average span of time between the birth of parents and that of their offspring


It usualy takes between 20 and 25 years before an adult human being produces offspring. So the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition above gives us a reasonably good ball-park number to measure the significance of Jesus Christs' words.

Would Jesus not know what our contemporary definition of a "generation" is? If he had used the word "generation" and yet wanted it to mean something other than our common definition then he certainly would have used a more correct word. In defense of their own failed prediction the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society would prefer that we do believe that our King Jesus Christ must have used the wrong word or intended it to have some other meaning than the immediately obvious one.In order to break the mystery of how long a generation should be could we not use the bible itself? I hope you agree this is what Jesus would most often do when faced with contentions from the pharisees. A usefull scripture which Jesus himself was likely also familiar with is Genesis 50:22-23

Genesis 50:22-23





22 Joseph stayed in Egypt, along with all his father's family. He lived a hundred and ten years and saw the third generation of Ephraim's children. Also the children of Makir son of Manasseh were placed at birth on Joseph's knees.

So Joseph lived to 110 and saw 3 generations of his own son's children. If you now count his son Ephraim as a generation also then we can say that 4 generations occured within a period of 110 years. Now all that is required is some simple math to determine that a biblically understood generation is approximately 110/4 or 27 1/2 years.


Jesus' own understanding of a generation would certainly comply with the understanding exhibited within the remainder of the bible.

Many people, including the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah's Witnessess have made presumptuous claims in regard to the identity of this generation. Rather than criticise their failures however, this blog will now dissect what the bible actually says about "the generation" in regards to its identity and chronology.

First of all, it should be understood that we will not know an exact date.

Why?


Matthew 24:42



42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come."

We are however, admonished that some discerning and righteous ones may have a good idea about the timeframe during which Jesus should arrive in judgement. They should know before he arrives to judge.

This is alluded to in the following verse:


Matthew 24:43

"43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into."

The reader should agree that it is Jesus Christ's coming in judgement that we are watching for however, all that Jesus assures us is that it will occur during a certain "watch". Once this happens Jesus is no longer just "present" as a ruling king but by judging the world he is actively bringing it to an end. The system of things is being concluded. Although we do not know the exact time of day or night that Jesus is coming, the scriptures indicate that we should at least be aware of the watch during which this event will take place.


If we are admonished to keep on the watch we should at least be aware of the length of the watch period and also the time the watch starts.


In the above scripture it is referring to a night watch.

During ancient times a night was divided up into intervals of time, each of these was a watch.


Here is the Merriam-Webster definition


2 a : any of the definite divisions of the night made by ancient peoples b : one of the indeterminate intervals marking the passage of night -- usually used in plural


So in order to "keep on the watch" the watchman would have to know:


1/ The length of time the watch would be.
2/ When the watch starts


From the discussion of events in Matthew chapter 24 it is not possible to determine the length of the watch.


I hope you agree these scriptures in Matthew Ch 24 do in fact infer however, that it should be possible to determine the length of the watch.

Coming to this important conclusion gives the impetus to continue the research.


In a similar manner to many other scriptural revelations it is very likely that a scripture exists elsewhere in the bible which will give us the required information.


Are there any scriptures with similar expressions or parallels to Matthew Chapter 24?


The best way to discover this is with a bible concordance, which very quickly reveals that Daniel Chapter 12 not only has some startling similarities to Matthew Chapter 24, it also has the actual length of many different time periods recorded within it's same verses.

Are these the "watch's" being reffered to in Mathew Ch 24?


The very first verse of Daniel Chapter 12 alludes to a period of Judgement or action being taken:

Daniel 12:1

"At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people-everyone whose name is found written in the book-will be delivered."

Certainly Daniels writings are referring the same judgement and tribulation as that described by Jesus in Matthew chapter 24.

There also seems to be a large separation between the faithfull and the evil or the righteous and the wicked as brought out by Daniel 12:10


Daniel 12:10

10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

This is much like Matthews' reference to the Faithfull and Evil Slave in Matthew 24:45-51.


Notice also the reference to the breaking in pieces of the Holy people in both Daniel and Matthew as follows:


Daniel 12:7 - ASV

" 7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and a half; and when they have made an end of breaking in pieces the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. "


Matthew 24:50-51

"50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."


Certainly these scirptures are referring to the things which are to happen during the same "watch". Breaking or cutting the holy people, servants of God, the Evil Slave to pieces.


If you are satisfied with the parallel, we can then apply the time period mentioned in Daniel to the length of the "watch" in Matthew.

The period in Daniel is said to be "a time, times and a half."


It is interesting to contemplate that the length of a "time" can not be understood until it was revealed by the writings of the Apostle John in Revelation chapter 12 many centuries later.


So now, how long is 'the time, times and half a time' so that we can calculate the length of this "watch"?


Revelation 12:6

"The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."

Revelation 12:14

The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach."

Therefore:


time, times and half a time = 1260 days


So the "watch" we should be concerned with is 1260 days long or about 3 and 1/2 years.

In their calculation of Jesus Christ's presence in kingdom power starting in 1914 the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Jehovah's Witnessess correctly applied "a year for a day" to this time period.

The generation which sees the start of the watch however, should also see all these things pass. Therefore applying a "year for a day" does not fit with Jesus Christ's words and the 1260 days must be literal days or approximately 3 and 1/2 years in order to properly fit into the lifespan of a generation.


We now have the length of the watch however, this information is of absolutely no value unless we know when we should start watching. This time is important to understand as it is crucial to identify "this generation". Would our King, Jesus Christ leave us with such a dilemma? That would contradict his renowned benevolent character. Would Jesus not know what our contemporary definition of a "generation" is? Of course not!


In Matthew Chapter 24 Jesus Christ tells us what to look for in regard to "signs of his presence".

Have we seen them all?

This is an important question.

Why?

Matthew 24:33



"Likewise also YOU, when YOU see all these things, know that he is near at the doors."

Who is it that is at the doors?

James 5:9



Look! The Judge is standing before the doors. "

For this reason I believe the tribulation (judgement) will start during the generation which sees all the things recorded in Matthew 24 prior to verse 29.

Why verse 29?

The entire of Matthew Chapter 24 is devoted to answering two questions posed to Jesus by his disciples.

Matthew 24:3




3Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?"

Question 1:
"What will be the sign of your coming" (or presence)

Question 2:
"When does the age conclude" (world or system of things)

Up to verse 29 Jesus describes signs of his presence or coming in power as a king and so answers question number one.

Here is Matthew CH 24 verse 29;

Matthew 24:29



"Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken."

Everything up to that point the Judge is still "near at the doors".

Once that door opens the tribulation (judgement) starts. Jesus Christ is no longer just "present" but will stand up and begin judging. Therefore at verse 29 Jesus is now giving attention to question number 2, the end of this system or age.

It is the generation which sees those things recorded prior to verse 29 which Matthew 24:34 refers to:

Matthew 24:34



"Truly I say to YOU that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur. "

So the generation which sees "all" of the signs prior to verse 29 will be the one that witnesses the entire course of Jesus Christ's judgement from begining to end. The generation which sees the "conclusion of the system of things" or in some bible translations it is referred to the "end of this world".

The immediate question to ask then is; "have all these things been seen"?

My examination of the scriptures and also historical events will show that of those things recorded prior to Matthew 29 the events described in verse 27 have now been seen!

Here is what Matthew Chapter 24 verse 27 says;

Matthew 24:27




"For just as the lightning comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts, so the presence of the Son of man will be. "

Jesus Christ is not talking about an ordinary manifestation of lightning here. If it is lightning which comes out of eastern parts and shines over to western parts then it must be an extraordinarily powerful manifestation of lightning. If he was referring to ordinary lightning it would make no difference. If these scriptures are to be fullfilled then, this lightning also must be one of those things that we should see.

If you now want to "see" this lightning please read the following very important blog entry:

http://ablebodiedman.blogspot.com/2004/10/while-researching-something-entirely.html


Did you see it?

If you did then you will be included in the very small number of those who are aware they will be a part of the generation which sees the end of this world.

There should no longer be any doubt in your mind that you should do everything possible to ensure not only your own survival, but also that of your friends, family and neighbours.

An astute reader should now be able to discern that on the date of my writing this we must be already well within this "watch"!

We can now positively say that it is this generation which will not pass away until all the events described in Matthew 24 are completed.

So when did the watch actually start?

I have estimated that we have at the most just over one year left of the "watch".

Please read the letter written several months after this entry in order to understand how this was calculated and make certain you come back here to complete this blog entry:

Letter to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. <-- Click Have you understood this blog entry? Daniel reveals this as an important question: Daniel 12:10
"10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand."



Regards


ablebodiedman













Sunday, October 10, 2004

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Matthew 10:7

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1 Corinthians 2

"11 For who among men knows the things of a man except the
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Revelation 22:17
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How was 1914 calculated using bible scripture?

If you have read even just portions of the Old Testament you should realize that Kings were appointed to rule over the Jews. God's rule over his people was through these King's who had been given God's approval. These Kings were actually chosen by/through God.

This line of Kings eventually terminated with the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 B.C.E. by the Babylonians. After this time no other human King was annointed or approved by God to rule over his people.

God was now allowing rulership amoung the people of the earth to progress according to their own desire. No direct interferance from God. What we need to do is determine how long this time will be.

During this time one of the most powerfull Kings was Nebuchadnezzar who let his power go to his head. He was eventually humiliated by God. From this lesson he concluded that the success of his rulership was not due to anything special in his own power but that he was just being allowed to rule by God. See Daniel Ch4

If you carefully contemplate this it should occur to you that national governments today will also eventually be humiliated and have to come to a similar conclusion. (Isaiah 2:4)

This is something I am really looking forward to, especially considering the circumstance the world is in today.

You must now carefully read and contemplate Daniel 4:23



Daniel 4 :23 - NIV "You, O king, saw a messenger, a holy one, coming down from heaven and saying, 'Cut down the tree and destroy it, but leave the stump, bound with iron and bronze, in the grass of the field, while its roots remain in the ground. Let him be drenched with the dew of heaven; let him live like the wild animals, until seven times pass by for him.'

The tree being chopped down is not completely killed but terminated (banded) for a period of 7 times. That this verse is in regards to rulership is discerned by reading it in context.

The period of 7 times is significant in that the actual period of time could not be determined as it was not properly understood how long 'a time' was until the Apostle John revealed this many hundreds of years later.

As this was revealed long after King Nebuchadnezzar's rule it must be that it had some other significance for the time period after the first century when John wrote the Book of Revelation.

Therefore by measuring 7 times after the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the last of its Kings in 607 B.C.E. we should be able to determine when a God appointed King would once again begin to rule.

It is easily rationalised that this King would be Jesus Christ because it is after his resurrection that we find out what 'a time' is.

There is a scriptural connection however, to Jesus Christ in this prophecy which, occurs a few verses later while Daniel interprets the dream as follows:



Daniel 23:24
24this is the interpretation, O king: It is a decree of the Most High, which has come upon my lord the king, 25that you shall be driven from among men, and your dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. You shall be made to eat grass like an ox, and you shall be wet with the dew of heaven, and seven periods of time shall pass over you, till you know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will.

So who does God want to give this Kingdom to?

One of Daniel's contemporaries reveals who this is in the following scripture:



Ezekiel 21:27
25"Now to you, O profane, wicked prince of Israel, whose day has come, whose iniquity shall end, 26thus says the Lord GOD: "Remove the turban, and take off the crown; Nothing shall remain the same. Exalt the humble, and humble the exalted. 27Overthrown, overthrown, I will make it overthrown! It shall be no longer, Until He comes whose right it is, And I will give it to Him."'
The scripture above also speaks of the removal of Gods approved or annointed kings until he comes whose (legal) right it is. This is the one who God wants to give the kingdom to. Jesus Christ who was the only perfect man to live and die on this earth. Earning the legal right to replace what Adam lost and rule mankind.

So now, how long is 'a time' so that we can calculate when Jesus will begin his rulership?
Revelation 12:6 "The woman fled into the desert to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."
Revelation 12:14 "The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach."
Therefore:

time, times and half a time = 1260 days

That times must equal 2 times is a rationale whose conclusion must be carefully contemplated.

If you try to make times equal to anything else but 2 times it does not seem to make sense.

Therefore:

time(1) + times(2) + half a time(1/2) = 3 1/2 times

Therefore:

7 times = 1260 x 2 = 2520 days.

If you now add 2520 days to 607 B.C.E. you end up nowhere special.

Also you end up in a period well before Jesus's birth as well as before the time that the Apostle John wrote the Book of Revelation which is where we find what a "time" was in the first place.

So now what ?

There are some scriptural precedents set which indicate that a day can be represented in prophetic terms as a year.

This is revealed in the following verses:



Numbers 14:34 "For forty years-one year for each of the forty days you explored the land-you will suffer for your sins and know what it is like to have me against you."

Ezekiel 4:6 "After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the house of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year."
Now if 2520 years are added to 607 B.C.E. you will arrive at the year 1914.

I think you will agree that this year is significant as it was the start of WW1 and is completely in line with what Jesus said to expect during the end of the age in Matthew chapter 24.



Matthew 24:6 "You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places."
This calculation is not anything new.

To the best of my own knowledge it was undertaken almost 100 years ago by some very serious bible students.

I have used this knowledge to look for the extraordinary manifestation of lightning which we should expect immediately before Jesus coming to power as a king. (Luke 10:18)

The discovery made in the following blog link makes the calculation above, incontrovertable:

Search for biblical lightning which should be immediately prior to 1914


I think you will agree the lightning reported by the Tunguska witnessess fully meets both the physical and chronological expectation derived from examining the scriptures.



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Angels, how powerful are they?

So just how powerful are angels?

Here is some battlefield logistics to help determine this:

Isaiah 37:36 - ESV

36 And the angel of the LORD went out and struck down a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the camp of the Assyrians. And when people arose early in the morning, behold, these were all dead bodies.

1 angel

185,000 men

1 night = 12hrs (best or worse case depending on your point of view)

Here is the math:

185,000 / 12 = 15416.66 per hour
15416.66 / 60 = 256.94 per minute
256.94 / 60 = 4.28 per second

Thats just one angel !

So how many angels are there ?

Revelation 5:11 - KJV

11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;

More math follows (maybe this is a science):

(10,000 x 10,000)+(1000 x 1000)=100,000,000+1,000,000 =101,000,000

Is that 101 million ? Someone please check my math.

101,000,000 x 4.28 = 432,280,000 per second

6,000,000,000 / 432,280,000 = 13.87 seconds

Therefore if they all came they have the power to wipe out the entire population of the planet earth in 13.87 seconds or less.

I know which side I want to be on.

Therefore before any human being decides they want to harm or oppress another they should carefully consider to who it is they will now be held accountable.

The scripture at Isaiah 2:4 indicates this will be the case.

Isaiah 2:4
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people:


This includes Presidents, Prime Ministers, Kings, Queens and Dictators.

Have they hurt any subjects of Jesus's Kingdom?


You know the answer.



"A common fear, however, which usually means a common foe, is also, regrettably, the strongest force bringing people together, but in opposition to something or someone. Perhaps there is a hopeful possibility here in the conquest of outer space. Interplanetary activity may give us planetary peace. Once we discover Martian space ships hovering over earth's airspace, we will all come together. "How dare they threaten us like this!" we shall shout, as one, at a really United Nations!"

Lester.B. Pearson - Former Canadian Prime Minister.

"Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon. "

Revelation 16:16



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The 1914 Core Doctrine - An alternative test.

Is 1914 Correct? - Test the Inspired Expression

What is Spiritual Paradise


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Saturday, October 09, 2004

Crop Circles

After discovering that the Tunguska event is the casting down of Satan and his demons I realized there may also be other physical and tangible evidence of angelic presence on the Earth.

The first chapter of Ezekiel describes most of those manifestations also mentioned by so many eye witnessess to the Tunguska event.

The first chapter of Ezekiel also says this in verse 15 to 17 of chapter 1:

Ezekiel 1:15-17



15 As I looked at the living creatures, I saw a wheel on the ground beside each creature with its four faces. 16 This was the appearance and structure of the wheels: They sparkled like chrysolite, and all four looked alike.Each appeared to be made like a wheel intersecting a wheel. 17 As they moved, they would go in any one of the four directions the creatures faced;the wheels did not turn about as the creatures went. 18 Their rims were high and awesome, and all four rims were full of eyes all around.

Angels have wheels !


Ezekiel then goes on to say:

Ezekiel 1:19-20

19 When the living creatures moved, the wheels beside them moved; and when the living creatures rose from the ground, the wheels also rose. 20 Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, and the wheels would rise along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. 21 When the creatures moved, they also moved; when the creatures stood still, they also stood still; and when the creatures rose from the ground, the wheels rose along with them, because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.


Not only do angels have wheels, those same wheels touch the ground! The obvious question to ask is whether those wheels would leave a semi-permanent mark similar to a footprint after they had touched the ground.

My own conclusion is yes!

Those wheels leave a mark on the ground, we call them crop circles.

What kind of mark should they leave on the ground?

Please notice what it says in Ezekiel Chapter 1 and Verse 16

Ezekiel 1:16

16As to the appearance of the wheels and their construction: in appearance they gleamed like chrysolite; and the four were formed alike, and their construction work was as it were a wheel within a wheel.

Not only do angels have wheels, they have more than one. Also note above that Ezekiel noticed the wheels were constructed in such a way that one wheel was inside another.

If these wheels were to rotate one inside (or outside) another we could expect some very beautiful patterns and shapes to appear as their foot prints.

Why?

The thought of wheels within wheels reminds me of the old and very popular toy marketed in the 1970's and still available today called the "Spirograph". You can sample the patterns it is capable of outputting by changing the size and position of each wheel within a wheel.

You can try it here and compare the results to actual photographs of crop circles here.

You should now be concluding like myself that many plausible reasons exist to believe that angels are the culprits for those real crop circles which cannot be indentified as a hoax.

Here is another internet version of the spirograph. It is lot's of fun however, please remember to come back and finish this article as there are still many profound things left concerning crop circles which have satisfying answers found through the bible scriptures.

I did not know much about crop circles until I visited this very comprehensive web site:

http://home.clara.net/lucypringle/ < ---- click

After studying many crop circle web sites I discovered that several witnesses to fresh crop circle formations saw "balls of light". With this in mind, read what Ezekiel says in verse 13 of Chapter 1 as follows:

Ezekiel 1:13

13 The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures; it was bright,and lightning flashed out of it. 14 The creatures sped back and forth likeflashes of lightning.
To familiarise yourself with the phenomenom of light in regards to crop circles these following links should be helpful:

http://www.cropcircleanswers.com/

http://thecropcirclewebsite.50megs.com/page52.htm

http://www.aliendave.com/UUFOH_CropcircleLight.html

There is one other phenomenon reported by witnessess that deserve mention and that is the effect on their physical well being.

Lucy Pringles web site brings attention to the following symptoms being reported by crop circle witnesses:

Symptoms

ORAL (taste (metallic), tooth pain, unusual thirst)
CRANIAL (headaches)
OCULAR (vision changes, hallucination)
AUDITORY (Acoustic) hearing voices, music etc
GUT (nausea, diarrhoea, sudden hunger etc.)
SYSTEMIC (dizziness, weak knees, leg pain etc.)
MENTAL (thought processes affected, short-term memory loss, feelings of panic,
terror, evil, peace, love and light, disorientation, sense of a presence)

Do bible eye witnesses report similar symptoms?

The nearby presence of angels caused Ezekiel to fall, dizziness or weakened knees perhaps:

Ezekiel 1:28

28 Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the
radiance around him. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD . When I saw it, I fell facedown, and I heard the voice of one speaking.
The nearby presence of an angel caused the men who were with Daniel to panic and run even though they saw nothing themselves:

Daniel 10:7

7 I, Daniel, was the only one who saw the vision; the men with me did not
see it, but such terror overwhelmed them that they fled and hid themselves.

Daniel himself reports that the nearby presence of an angel caused him to become very weak to the point of passing out face down in a similar experience to his contemporary Ezekiel:

Daniel 10:8-9

8 So I was left alone, gazing at this great vision; I had no strength left, my face turned deathly pale and I was helpless. 9 Then I heard him speaking, and as I listened to him, I fell into a deep sleep, my face to the ground.

Angelic presence was also reason for a more beneficial physiological experience for Daniel as mentioned by him in verse 19 of Chapter 10.

Daniel 10:19

19 "Do not be afraid, O man highly esteemed," he said. "Peace! Be strong now; be strong." When he spoke to me, I was strengthened and said, "Speak, my lord, since you have given me strength."


Zechariah was troubled and had great fear when he was in the presence of an angel:

Luke 1:11-12

11Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. 12When Zechariah saw him, he was startled and was gripped with fear.


An angelic presence also had a physical effect on the Apostle John:

Revelation 1:17

17When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.
Jesus Christ himself is reportedto explain what the effects of a very large and future angelic presence will have on mankind in general. Notice that the general effect is not pleasant except for a few who it seems will experience something more beneficial. The scriptures in Matthew and Luke in the following quotes show the two different physiological effects on these people:

Luke 21:27-28

27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”
Now please notice the opposite effect reported by Matthew for the same future angelic event:

Matthew 24:30

30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn and beat their breasts and lament in anguish, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory [in brilliancy and splendor].


Read some first hand experiences of actual wtnessess and victims of physical and mental reactions when in close proximity to crop circles.

Lucy Pringles Article < --- click

I have not yet found any evidence on the Internet of similar connections being made to the Crop Circle phenomenon and the angelic presences reported by bible writers. If you know of any please report the link in the comment section which follows.

If you consider the biblical testimony found in scripture against actual eye witness testimonies and physical evidences to be found on the earth in various crops and ice certainly enough volume now exists to conclude this is fact rather than theory.

That's a personal decision that each individual has to make.


After making the above discernments I am now even more resolved to pay attention to other unexamined writings in the bible in order to understand what it is we were created to do so that when taken to account by my creator I should be free from any shame.


I would be interested in hearing your comments and suggestions.